Comments on: Lost Wednesday: Substitute Fanboy http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/02/17/lost-wednesday-substitute-fanboy/ Responses to Media and Culture Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 By: Jim http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/02/17/lost-wednesday-substitute-fanboy/comment-page-1/#comment-650 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:51:21 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=2019#comment-650 I thought I heard the Man in Black referred to as “Abraham” in the first episode of this last season–is that his name? That would play into the show’s long-standing “father” issues, originally posed as the overall theme way back during the first season.

Alternatively, I have my own theory that the MiB is Esau, playing out an eternal competition with his brother Jacob throughout eternity on this purgatory-like island. And all the men and women are merely players for their amusement/dueling, pawns in the great game.

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By: Jason Mittell http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/02/17/lost-wednesday-substitute-fanboy/comment-page-1/#comment-561 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:04:09 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=2019#comment-561 I had no problem with the use of the callbacks to “The Incident” in the “body” of the show rather than in the recap. In part, it’s because it’s consistent with the show’s form – even back in “Walkabout,” there were repetitions of shots to trigger recall. And I know that there are many casual fans watching who haven’t seen “The Incident” for 8 months and can’t be expected to recollect those specific subtle moments. I always use my sister as a litmus test, as she watches every week, but as far as I know, the only paratextual source of Lost arcana that she references is me…

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By: Jason Mittell http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/02/17/lost-wednesday-substitute-fanboy/comment-page-1/#comment-560 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:50:45 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=2019#comment-560 Derek – you’re totally right about the LA X timeline prompting a distinct mode of viewing. It’s almost an extension of the “what if” marginal scrawling found in “Exposé,” taking what we “know” as viewers, and playing with expectations & assumptions. Darlton has suggested that these stories are accessible to novice viewers, but really it’s all about the game we play in our heads between the (previously) canonical backstories and our teasing out of possibilities & connections.

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By: Myles McNutt http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/02/17/lost-wednesday-substitute-fanboy/comment-page-1/#comment-559 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:46:49 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=2019#comment-559 As I alluded to on Twitter last night, a discussion of the episode on a message board over the ways in which the cave scrawl was communicated to the audience brought to mind some of your previous writing on the subject of memory in serials.The use of flashbacks to Jacob’s “recruitment” was seen as unnecessary to some (who argued that it was likely ABC-mandated) while effective to others (who didn’t necessarily need to be reminded, but felt that it helped the effectiveness of the scene).

I don’t think the reminder was entirely necessary, as Lost fans have a fairly comprehensive memory for these types of things, and Lostpedia and other sites would surely have figured out the significance of those names pretty quickly. However, I think the reminder was helpful in that, for viewers who don’t follow through on every mystery, it points them towards the real mysteries surrounding the wall without coming out and saying it. The real story, as your conversation with Sean and Jonathan indicates, is that Kate isn’t on the list, or that Ben’s absence explains why Jacob was never “hands-on.”

While the show could have easily placed those scenes from “The Incident” in the “Previously On” segment and left it up to the viewer, making an overt connection suggests that the presence of the those five names is more than just a small mystery, allowing even non-Lostpedia followers to turn their attention from the simple connection of names to the broader questions that it represents.

Plus, when Terry O’Quinn eventually submits this for an Emmy, the clueless Emmy voters will be less confused, and more likely to give him the award he so richly deserves.

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By: Jonathan Gray http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/02/17/lost-wednesday-substitute-fanboy/comment-page-1/#comment-558 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:36:32 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=2019#comment-558 I hope you’re right about Sawyer, Derek. It would be a nice move from a character who, for me, has gone from barely more stomachable than Boone or Shannon to being one of the best there.

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By: Derek Kompare http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/02/17/lost-wednesday-substitute-fanboy/comment-page-1/#comment-557 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:31:38 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=2019#comment-557 The only flaw in your comparison between seasons 1 and 6 (thus far) is that season 6 is about eight episodes shorter, so the 1:1 relationship can’t be sustained. That said, I’m sure we’ll see Charlie again at some point (as well as Ana Lucia, Libby, and who knows who else) in the sideways timeline.

I love how every moment in the sideways timeline–every moment–is ripe with narrative expectation. We’re not watching this as we would a straight-up story, but as a constant series of revelations. Look at how much about Locke was unveiled in this episode: his relationship with Helen (and, more mysteriously, with his father), his deception about the walkabout, his job (and job change), and his seeming acceptance of his fate (thus far, and begrudgingly). Moreover, every little moment of interaction or mention of someone else opens up other possibilities. Rose seems to be very close to her original timeline self, while Hugo is inverted, and Ben (! – I didn’t see that coming!) is completely alien to the Ben we know. I’m also wondering how/when he got off the island, presuming it was Jughead that sunk it in 1977; this may be our first hint that some other stuff has happened in addition to “the incident.”

My fanboy moment: Sawyer taking the possessed/whatever Smocke completely in stride. He’s moved right on to just accepting whatever the island throws at him, reacting not with disbelief (as he still showed in early season 5), but with a resigned “now what?” Similarly, for those who think James has simply gone with Smocke’s option #3, don’t forget that he’s a con man. He knows full well that the MiB intends to use and (likely) discard him, but will play along for as long as takes to find an opening.

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