Comments on: Kids Today http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/08/25/kids-today-2/ Responses to Media and Culture Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 By: Alan McKee http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/08/25/kids-today-2/comment-page-1/#comment-25229 Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:40:32 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=5743#comment-25229 Thanks for these comments. You raise an important point – if we accept that children should go through healthy, normal sexual development, the next question is – how do we differentiate that from ‘sexualisation’? We can’t just say that one is good and one is bad without some attempt to differentiate between the two. As a starting point for discussion, have a look at an article that I co-wrote with a psychologist, an early childhood expert, a sexuality educator, a cultural studies expert and a legal expert in children’s rights – ‘Healthy sexual development – a multidisciplinary framework for research’, in the International Journal of Sexual Health – http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a919643432~db=all~jumptype=rss

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By: Lorena http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/08/25/kids-today-2/comment-page-1/#comment-25208 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:58:55 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=5743#comment-25208 I think you fail to understand that being sexualized does not equal normal sexual development. In that light, I can’t see this article as anything other than redundant.

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By: Lindsay H. Garrison http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/08/25/kids-today-2/comment-page-1/#comment-25206 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:44:14 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=5743#comment-25206 Thanks for this, Alan and Emmy Lou. It’s important to historicize and temper the ways in which children/childhood are used in fear-based discourses of media and moral panics and/or demonization of popular culture. Those are some powerful statistics and findings that serve well in fighting this sort of cultural amnesia.

At the same time, in doing so, it’s also important to complicate childhood/children and sexuality even further in a way that moves beyond children/childhood as a fixed, universal signifier and interrogate the ways that the discursive construction of childhood works in both challenging and upholding certain forms of cultural power. As Derek mentions, the intersection of media, children, and sexuality often operate in very gendered ways; we also need to interrogate how this interaction can also be raced and classed, not to mention the heteronormativity of it all.

You make a great point that children are not asexual, and that the media is not to solely to blame for kids’ sexuality. But we can’t say “it’s what kids have always done” without looking more closely at social/historical contexts (that certainly include media in kids’ everyday lives). Instead, perhaps we should take the point that children are sexual and social beings to interrogate the ways in the media (and moral panic discourses) work to define this sexuality, and the ways in which kids themselves – along with parents, families, peers, communities, and other social processes in their lives – are constantly negotiating those tensions.

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By: Derek Kompare http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/08/25/kids-today-2/comment-page-1/#comment-25203 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:47:33 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=5743#comment-25203 I agree, Jonathan. Sexuality in American media has been increasingly represented in adolescent terms for years, regardless of peoples’ actual ages. In other words, we’re always supposed to do it like we’re 18, no matter if we’re 7, 29, 41, or 60. This has reduced the richness of sexuality down to a handful of mostly heteronormative, lusty adolescent flavors. The problem is precisely that the prohibitionists have mistaken this narrow shard for sexuality more broadly.

As for kids, this hits girls about 100x harder than it hits boys, and it starts as soon as they can walk. While boys are rewarded for being into heavily gendered, but not especially sexualized, interests and experiences, girls are overwhelmed with clothing, toys, and accessories that emphasize physical attraction and presentation for men (the princes in all those princess stories).

I hate to sound like those MEF videos, but sometimes the dominant ideology is pretty damn effective and ubiquitous.

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By: Jennifer Aubrey http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/08/25/kids-today-2/comment-page-1/#comment-25201 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:24:22 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=5743#comment-25201 Agreeing w/ Jonathan Gray, it is right to point out that the rhetoric surrounding children’s sexuality often falls under the umbrella of moral panic. However, I also think it’s important to recognize the difference in the two points you are making. Kylie Minogue is highlighting the extent to which the media sexualize young people, particularly young women. (Miley Cyrus is a great current example.) Here, the concern is that young women are sexually objectified and presented in ways that *are* developmentally inappropriate. And the other point you make is about children engaging in normal, healthy, developmentally appropriate sexual behaviors. So, yes, I agree that kids should be allowed to explore their sexuality, but I also think the culture unfairly sexualizes young people. I see these two arguments as apples and oranges.

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By: Myles McNutt http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/08/25/kids-today-2/comment-page-1/#comment-25199 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:56:50 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=5743#comment-25199 Just as an additon to this great piece, see this week’s episode of Mad Men for a (fictional) piece of evidence for the longstanding nature of this connection.

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By: Jonathan Gray http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/08/25/kids-today-2/comment-page-1/#comment-25198 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:54:14 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=5743#comment-25198 Thanks for this Alan and Emmy-Lou. You’re right to point this out, and I agree that a lot of the rhetoric surrounding the issue goes way too quickly to images of children as putti. But surely there’s reason to be concerned about some media outlets’ investment in kids’ sexuality, just as, for instance, feminist scholars have long been concerned in the media’s investment in female sexuality, not to suggest that women aren’t sexual beings but to question why they’re so often presented as sexual beings first, foremost, and only. Maybe I’m just looking for an excuse to continue being shocked by some of what I see, but I’d like to think it’s possible to believe in children’s sexuality while still condemning many instances of the media’s presentation of it as tawdry.

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