Comments on: Glee: The Countertenor and the Crooner, Part 2 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/05/10/glee-the-countertenor-and-the-crooner-part-2/ Responses to Media and Culture Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 By: Jacq http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/05/10/glee-the-countertenor-and-the-crooner-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-87402 Thu, 19 May 2011 11:50:10 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=9299#comment-87402 I love this series you’ve written so much. As a female tenor, I was never looked upon with much suspicion, so I was shocked at the kind of rhetoric that was leveled at Chris Colfer when Glee really started to take its place in popular culture.

I admit, I had no idea about the history of countertenors. It’s funny though, you can see how it gets missed. Most choirs find themselves inundated with women, which is why many of us end up singing tenor if we can manage it, but choirs are rarely at a loss for people to sing alto or soprano parts.

I hope you write more. These articles are positively delicious.

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By: Ama http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/05/10/glee-the-countertenor-and-the-crooner-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-86453 Sun, 15 May 2011 20:19:21 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=9299#comment-86453 This is a very well-written and well thought-out article. It’s very gratifying to see an analysis of such a groundbreaking character that focuses on Chris Colfer’s unquestionable talent, rather than the sometimes uneven work of the writers. My only question is whether there is another version of “Rose’s Turn” that could be used in this article; having listened to the original about 87 times, I could tell within half a second that this version was actually modified to make Colfer’s voice lower, which is good if you want to avoid the song being raided by Fox on YouTube, but bad if you’re writing an article praising his high voice!

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By: Joanne http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/05/10/glee-the-countertenor-and-the-crooner-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-86422 Sun, 15 May 2011 17:31:14 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=9299#comment-86422 Thank you for a fascinating article which helps me understand my own admiration for Colfer’s singing, and for your location of Colfer in the history of countertenors in popular music. Despite my admiration, I have to admit I am sometimes made uncomfortable by Colfer’s voice because it IS so unique for our times right now; I don’t always know how to digest it seeing as how we are usually fed a mainstream binary-gendered musical diet. Colfer’s utter commitment to his own voice helps with this discomfort, as does the growing number of others who appreciate it. Colfer, and the Glee creators, are to be admired for going towards that which is beautiful and true in this particular story line. On a personal note, I myself (straight female ally, middle age) love to sing but have been too inhibited in recent years to express this. Kurt/Chris has helped me rediscover my voice, and I especially enjoy belting out “Defying Gravity” in my car as a daily anthem to reach for what you want in life (much to the mirth, I’m sure, of other commuters on the road).

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By: newsmongering 05/12 (the ‘I think I have a sunburn. Again. Oops?’ edition) « whackanarwhal http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/05/10/glee-the-countertenor-and-the-crooner-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-86138 Fri, 13 May 2011 01:20:19 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=9299#comment-86138 […] > There’s quite a cool article on the implications of Chris Colfer’s/Kurt Hummel’s countertenor here: […]

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By: Glee: sex, gender, desire, and what was that about a Sadie Hawkins dance? « Letters from Titan http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/05/10/glee-the-countertenor-and-the-crooner-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-86118 Thu, 12 May 2011 19:26:01 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=9299#comment-86118 […] in. And we can all discuss how Kurt’s effeminate or has traits associated with femininity (this piece on the significance of his being a counter tenor is about my favorite thing on the Intern…) all day long but none of that necessarily has any bearing on either his gender identity or how he […]

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By: Allison McCracken http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/05/10/glee-the-countertenor-and-the-crooner-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-86040 Thu, 12 May 2011 01:09:02 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=9299#comment-86040 Hi Kristina, and thanks so much for your comment.

I honestly think Kurt’s character is an unalloyed good. He literally gives voice to the large number of gay/queer kids who have high-pitched voices and love show tunes but have been scorned by both the straight and gay communities because of general hostility to the cultural feminine. I kept thinking of a quote by Eve Sedgwick when I was writing about Kurt: “In dealing with an open secret structure, it’s only by being shameless about risking the obvious that we happen into the vicinity of the transformative.” Because Colfer’s performance is so brilliant, he has reclaimed the high-pitched voice for all boys, and he helps all of us better appreciate what we have been missing by not having a voice like his in the mainstream. From what I have observed regarding Colfer’s fandom, his popularity crosses all kinds of age/identity boundaries. I think it truly remarkable that kids can now grow up wanting to sing like Kurt, and I believe this will, in time, reduce the stigma surrounding voices like his.

I do feel, however, that it is also important that there are a variety of straight/gay/queer characters singing on the show, and that singing isn’t only aligned with gay men or even with one type of gay man. Singing is shown to be liberating for all young people, especially straight boys; critiquing the stigma attached to singing is one the core tenants of the show. Moreover, as Racheline suggests in her comment following yours, there are any number of gender-queer performances on Glee that continually disrupt social norms and gender/sex binaries. But more on that next week!

(And go boy sopranos!)

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By: Racheline http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/05/10/glee-the-countertenor-and-the-crooner-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-85947 Wed, 11 May 2011 13:35:58 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=9299#comment-85947 This is my favorite thing on the Internet today.

As a genderqueer, female-bodied person who can only wander near the upper parts of Colfer’s range on very good days with my voice teacher, it has been ridiculously pleasing to me to listen to a male voice that’s aspirational for me.

Glee, which is often incoherent about many issues, seems to make its most interesting choices about gender and queerness around music (the layers of potential meaning in the song they had Blaine sing in the prom episode, for example, is something I have to get around to writing about as soon as I have time), even as I’m not always a fan of how the show tends to under-utilize the musical format with often mundane justifications for performance.

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By: Kristina Busse http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/05/10/glee-the-countertenor-and-the-crooner-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-85751 Tue, 10 May 2011 21:58:14 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=9299#comment-85751 Allison, I’m enjoying you focus on the male voice–last week and even more this week.

However, I’m a bit troubled by the conflation of voice, gender, and sexuality that you disavow in the earlier parts of your post yet all but replicate later on. I think that the embracing and reappropriation of negative stereotypes is a powerful move yet requires complex negotiations. To be had, I fear that as much as Kurt and Colfer’s merging of queer empowerment, feminine diva embrace and the countertenor functions as an immensely strong statement, it simultaneously reinforces the voice/gender/sexuality conflation that could usefully be challenged.

[And I’m writing this only in part as mom to a teenage boy soprano who had chosen to perform Blackbird the week Kurt sang it and was certainly aware of the connotations his performance thus invoked. :)]

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