Comments on: Phones Coming to a Theater Near You? http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2013/05/23/phones-coming-to-a-theater-near-you/ Responses to Media and Culture Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 By: 手機殼 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2013/05/23/phones-coming-to-a-theater-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-407969 Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:41:29 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=19922#comment-407969 Healthy Women UT Keynote Speaker I was suggested this web site by my cousin. I’m not sure whether this post is written by him as no one else know such detailed about my trouble. You’re incredible! Thanks! your article about Healthy Women UT Keynote SpeakerBest Regards Lisa

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By: Leo http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2013/05/23/phones-coming-to-a-theater-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-406425 Sat, 25 May 2013 06:25:07 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=19922#comment-406425 Thanks for the comments, Dan. In reverse order:

I’m relatively unfamiliar with “connected viewing” except for being aware of its existence, but based on what I do know I’m as interested as you to see if/where each industry’s justification for its incorporation crosses over with justifications proposed by the other industry.

To your first thought, I’d add that while the mainstream industry seems interested (for the moment) in figuring out how to incorporate mobile technology into its established business model (sell the movie at the movie theater, or just the movie theater), the devices present new means of creating/guiding the “event” experience, too. Things like HeckleVision strike me less as supportive of the big screen than of the audience itself. That is, one pays to have a good time with people, for which one needs this device/app, rather than paying to see a movie, whether or not others are in attendance.

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By: Derek Kompare http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2013/05/23/phones-coming-to-a-theater-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-406368 Fri, 24 May 2013 14:08:16 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=19922#comment-406368 This is a fascinating area of research, and also leads into all sorts of media consumption: what are the “standard” or “proper” ways to watch TV, read books, play games, etc.? How did they come to be? How do they change?

Eating is an interesting one that’s both allowed (and encouraged by theater owners), but only within certain parameters. Those parameters have widened from only popcorn, Coke, and/or Milk Duds, with some theaters (e.g, Studio Movie Grill, Alamo Drafthouse) providing full meals and alcohol. Still, one “sneaks” external food into the theater.

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By: Derek Kompare http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2013/05/23/phones-coming-to-a-theater-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-406364 Fri, 24 May 2013 13:59:28 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=19922#comment-406364 I’m just old enough to remember cigarettes in theaters. While I can’t remember the flashes of light, I do remember the smell of the smoke, which was pervasive in all public buildings through the 1970s and into the 1980s. In that case, the change in practices wasn’t related as much to an idealized construction of film spectatorship as much as broader, rising concerns about secondhand smoke and public health (as well as fire hazards). Still, people had to be taught and reminded, as this great John Waters PSA did in the early 1980s.

We’re not only talking cigarettes and cell phones of course. Food (and their containers), having sex, talking between patrons, talking to characters on the screen, MSTing, entertaining small children, playing handheld games, going in elaborate costumes, etc. etc. etc. There’s always been practices that may (or may not) be construed as “improper” ways to watch movies in public.

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By: Leo http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2013/05/23/phones-coming-to-a-theater-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-406288 Fri, 24 May 2013 02:20:50 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=19922#comment-406288 Thanks for the positive response, Derek. I absolutely agree with your point in the first paragraph; audience members definitely walk into a screening situation with certain expectations and assumptions in mind, these being the result of past experience, industry encouragement through PSAs and the like, ideas about politeness in public spaces, and so forth. Figuring out how those standards developed is one of my primary interests, though there wasn’t space to address that phenomenon more fully here, so thank you for bringing up the issue.

By emphasizing the “enacted” nature of group viewing (and individual viewing, I suppose), I’m also hoping to bring out what may be an easily overlooked relationship between now standard practices and alternatives to them. Both are enacted, though one has the benefit of being expected. Two summers ago, two friends and I went to a midnight showing of KILLER KLOWNS FROM OUTER SPACE. As soon as the credits started rolling, so did our commentary. For about the first 10 minutes of the movie, though, we were the only ones making wisecracks, so it wasn’t exactly clear that anyone else in the audience was enjoying our interruptions. Then (finally!), someone several rows back made a joke, and suddenly what we were doing seemed to become acceptable. My sense, then, is that default behaviors — encouraged or mandated — also need to be thought of as enacted. Foregrounding that idea opens the door to asking how and why various audience practices (the standard ones AND the standardized variations/deviations) (1) came into being and (2) were standardized and diffused.

Thank you, as well, for the PCHH recommendation and link. I’ll definitely give it a listen after I’ve submitted grades.

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By: Eric Dienstfrey http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2013/05/23/phones-coming-to-a-theater-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-406244 Thu, 23 May 2013 22:00:44 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=19922#comment-406244 Derek, I am too young to remember when cigarettes were allowed in cinemas, but wouldn’t smoking have been just as distracting to filmgoers, especially all the flashes of light as people were lighting up? I’m not necessarily challenging your “decades of social practice” line, just suggesting that these new cell phone uses seem to be continuations of long-held, significant counter-opinions when it comes to the proper way to watch movies in public. Just a thought.

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By: Derek Kompare http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2013/05/23/phones-coming-to-a-theater-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-406237 Thu, 23 May 2013 20:43:42 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=19922#comment-406237 Thoughtful exploration of the entire conceptual space of being a “spectator” or part of an “audience” in a public setting. For the record, I’m pretty firmly with Tim League in general, i.e., that for now at least, the public motion picture screening space should default to “no devices.” While I understand your point that “the practices of cinema spectatorship are enacted anew by each congregated audience,” I think you might underestimate the significance of decades of social practice in cinema spaces. That is to say: just as we don’t come into the cinema as blank receptacles for texts to fill, we don’t come in as blank receptacles ready to negotiate new viewing practices. Call it habit, tradition, or in some spaces, actual rules: there are certain things that are socially unacceptable in some spaces.

Granted, this already varies wildly. I’ve long heard stories of Russian cinemas being awash in talking, based on decades of Soviet-era social practice, while someone just the other day mentioned how taking out your phone in Ireland gets you beaned on the head with an usher’s flashlight. These “congregated audiences” aren’t abstract concepts but rather social participatory groups generally adhering to prevailing practices (whatever those might be). I think the resentment of phones (similar to, for that matter, laptops and tablets in college classrooms) comes more from this social space than any puritianical code of “sacred spaces.” There are no such things. There are only spaces with histories of people using them in particular ways. Listen to last week’s Pop Culture Happy Hour for a great discussion of various audience practices.

As widely seen, these ways can and do change. I’ve no doubt that cinema chains’ bans on phones will weaken over the next several years to the point that phone-free spaces are going to be marginal by the 2020s, and that more will be done at textual and institutional levels to integrate devices and screenings. I agree wholeheartedly with your last sentence, and frankly, if our still too-often text-centered media studies can’t accept these changes, they’re not really media studies after all.

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By: Dan Hassoun http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2013/05/23/phones-coming-to-a-theater-near-you/comment-page-1/#comment-406235 Thu, 23 May 2013 20:39:14 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=19922#comment-406235 Great post about an aspect of cinemagoing that hasn’t received its due of scholarly attention. Two quick thoughts:

1) We seem to judge the success or failure of second screen experiments like Minionator by how successfully they sync to cues from the auditorium screen. Even if users are toggling their focus between the film screen and their phones, the primacy of the former is not directly challenged. Almost all of the industry buzz about second screen use in theaters revolves around this assumption/hope — that the extra devices sustain, rather than detract, the viewer from the display at the front.

I wonder if theater owners will ever reach a point of embracing laissez-faire phone policies, and with them, the possibility that patrons may focus more on their personal screens than on the film screen.

2) These developments in cinema spectatorship closely mirror “connected viewing” initiatives arising around television viewing (e.g. interactive apps, second screen platforms, social networking tools). The interesting difference, I think, is that television has long been seen as a site for distracted audience activity, while (at least in the last several decades) theaters are framed as sites for attentive and “polite” modes of viewing. This is probably in part due to the “public” nature of cinemagoing, as you mention. But I also wonder how the rise of second screens is shifting or combining the industry’s different modes of address to theatergoers and TV viewers.

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