Comments on: Spelunking for Gayness in Glass Closets http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/08/spelunking-for-gayness-in-glass-closets/ Responses to Media and Culture Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 By: Kelli Marshall http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/08/spelunking-for-gayness-in-glass-closets/comment-page-1/#comment-3158 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:51:05 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=2918#comment-3158 “If Fred Astaire was alive today, would we all assume that he was gay because he could dance?”

My students, it seems, generally assume Astaire as well as Gene Kelly was gay until I tell them otherwise; and even when I do inform them, they’re still skeptical. (It probably doesn’t help that we’ve just watched the dream sequence from THE PIRATE, which features Kelly in “Daisy Dukes” with severely oiled-up thighs: http://www.gonemovies.com/www/XsFilms/SnelPlaatjes/ActKellyPirate.jpg.)

But I wonder if my students (and other audiences) think the same about the professional male dancers from DANCING WITH THE STARS, for example, who — in their minds, I imagine — ooze a more hardened, sexual, and conventionally heterosexual masculine representation of dance than Astaire/Kelly and their film musical partners.

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By: Erin Copple Smith http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/08/spelunking-for-gayness-in-glass-closets/comment-page-1/#comment-3077 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:34:37 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=2918#comment-3077 That’s a fascinating–and accurate–point, Jonathan. Narrative poverty, indeed.

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By: Jonathan Gray http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/08/spelunking-for-gayness-in-glass-closets/comment-page-1/#comment-3024 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:46:19 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=2918#comment-3024 “Why do we continue to enshrine the coming out moment as the defining moment of a gay man’s life?”

It’s a central narrative urge, though, no? That story of becoming so often preempts other stories. Hence superhero movies endlessly rebooting, hence romantic comedies ending once the couple declare their love and get married, and hence the coming out being the big moment. I agree with you, however, that there’s so much more story to be told. Why aren’t there more romcoms about partnered couples, why do superhero films struggle once they’ve told us how the hero became the hero, or why are the competition reality show winners often interesting only when they’re about to win, not after? We seem to be suffering from a pervasive narrative poverty as a culture — great at Act One, bad at the rest

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By: MM http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/08/spelunking-for-gayness-in-glass-closets/comment-page-1/#comment-2974 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:48:45 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=2918#comment-2974 “I find myself wondering why so many of us were so convinced that Martin was gay”

Gaydar and his unconvincing ‘girlfriends’.

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