And certainly Obvious for one person could be a mystery for another.

And perhaps Walt was not a good example as on the one hand I do think then need to address the Walt/Arron issues (btw I like the Abbadon thought process) on the other had that particular thread is way down the list of things I want answered.

I want the writers to tell the story they want to tell the way they want to tell it (on the one hand :–).

Yet, in the Walt/Arron case you purposely build the Mythology around these two up as they are key peices of the puzzle in some shape or and then for all intent and purposes pretend they don’t exist.

That is a small example of not being damn if you do…it is the writers doing as they do. This isn’t a show for the casual watcher which is a reason they lost a sizable portion of the audience.

However, they are telling the story. Personally I don’t much Care if Walt/Arron are part of the solution or not. I am just trying to follow the clues.

I didn’t make Walt/Arron a potentially central point the writers did. Even if they changed course leave a crumb. I like your idea on Abbadon and course correction but based on the crumbs they gave us, other than you just choosing to beleive this based on the Island and different comments about course correcting there is nothing, at least that I know, in the show that would remotely lead us to believe or think Abbadon and walt are the same. A clue would have been nice.

But my point really is not about the walt/arron story line or what some people might find obvious or less obvious.

And again, I realize this ia just an opinion, which is sort of your point. Everyone has an opinion on what and how lost should do what they do and it is difficult to satisfy all those opinions.

My answer to that is that they should not (and I don’t think they are) be worried about satisfying everybodies needs, veiwership or devotee watcher levels.

They should only focus on telling there story and making that story compelling as they possibly can.

Within that story they have to stay true to the themes and plots and artifices within the Mythology they built.

For me when they deviate from their own Mythology (over doing it with Hurley, not addressing key points/plot shifts, throwing in random non-answers (ie. the whispers are trapped souls, but not giving any how way etc..) I think it sets them up to have to artificially start through large contrived answers in the final few episodes when they could have unlocked the keys slowly and more substantially along the way.

Like a good book how you build and tell the story is almost as good or maybe even better than the satisfying ending.

Lost seems to be playing “…We will hold enough peices out so you can’t connect the dots in too many areas…” And that is what I think gets them into the damned if you do and damn if you don’t grey areas.

And I realize this is an exceedingly complex story.

Yet, while I am once again rambling. Richards Story which I thought was very Very good. However, For Me (and as you can see I am a pain :–), I thought they could have told a much much much better story if they gave Richards backstory with Isabella but then show us Richards 150 year Timeline on the Island.

That one story line could have answered so many questions without giving up the big reveals. Spending so much time on him becoming a slave on the blackrock when most die hard fans had already figured that out, is a bit unsatisfying and unneeded when you can quickly show he got shipped on the boat…even the casual fan would have got that and then they could have went into some Island Mythology through Richards eyes on the Island.

Another pet peeve is at the end of that Story Jacob gives us the 60 second big reveal that the Island is a cork that keeps we guess the evil in if we are to believe Jacob.

Now while this is one of my pet peeves, Lost throwing in big knowledge bombs with no context in the last 5 minutes of episodes at times seems artificial and would have been much more meaningful if they explored and built up to the good nuggets of information. But I accept this is Losts story telling device.

Anyway, with all my complaining here, I hope they find a way to fool us all and still have a satisfying last however many episodes.

I think we forget sometimes that Lost is throwing an nearly unprecedented amount of info at the viewer for network television. Some guidence would be nice for certain viewers. There is a misconception in the lost internet culture about what is obvious and what is not. What you want out of the show is competely different than what I want and that goes for every individual fan. Walt is a whatever plot point for me. He was too much for the Others and for me I rationalized that He was Matthew Abbadon who came from the future to course correct.

In my imagination and how I see things (his use of the term “Mr Locke” and that “a miracle has happened to him” and “the next time you see me you’ll owe me one) gave me as an individual viewer to connect enough “vague dots” to rationalize my idea of an answer. It may not work for anyone else but that’s what I decided to use that information for. But you have another way of seeing the Walt issue, feeling though it has not been resolved.

There is no true uniform opinion on this show. “Your mililage may vary” might as well be the tag line for this show.

When Richard didn’t see the kid but sawyer could I was thinking maybe only the Candidates could see little Jacob. However Desmond isn’t a candidate unless he turns out to be the 6th candidate if Sayid is really infected and no longer a candidate.

As for the little boy, he seems to have power to taunt Smokey. ANd he certainly rattles him (…just ignore him…) Did you notice the little boy smiling and openly laughing at Smokey.

The kid seems to know whatever the Island rules are “…you know you can’t kill him…”. Smokey responding as Locke saying “…you can’t tell me what I can’t do…”.

But it is frustrating not having a clue how, who I call lil Jacob, fits in.

While I actually liked this episode even though there were many things as you pointed out that were, Ummm, well, ok Weak!

For me the all time most Meaningless death on Lost is Illana! It was rather pointless to me other than to highlight that maybe Hurley has so juice with dead people and we already know that.

I mean, she was never one of my favorite characters and I never understood her real role on the show and it turns out she was there to get blown up in wee lil itty bitty flesh peieces.

Again for me this is another Lost Unsatisfying moment. I mean, we have already seen Artz get blown up with the same blachrock dynamite so the concept and even scene was not new.

And yeah, I have to get it to them it was a bit shocking until I thought about it and said…WEAK.

I have already suffered through not particularly liking her character anyway. But I watched as she showed up with her crew of Jacob protectors, I found out she is protecting the candidates, I saw her all bandaged up in the hospital with Jacob annointing her the protector. Heck, I even saw her cry at Jacob death as he was only father figure she ever had. I mean if I actually emotionally cared about her character I might even be down that she is blown up and now I get to see the Ghost of Illana. But Man, Lost Inserts her near the end as if she has a real role in the coming battle only to Artz her.

That was Sad, Lame, seems to serve no purpose, other than it did give us the Old Bug Eyed manipulative Linus a chance for some one liners about how Jacobs chosen one can’t protect us I’m certainly not going to meet with Team Smokey.

Anyway, I just thought this was the dumbest Soprano’s styled Offing that did not fit the script or the character development today (not that they have ever gave us her back story because Lost has to dool that out in smaller drips and drivels :–).

Anyway, I hope all those post do not all aound like Angry Lost Fan. I have already resolved to myself that it is probably not going to have the Matrix One satisfying ending that makes you think, question and immediately go back and see it again to see what all you missed now that you have the key.

I do hope that they have an intruiging way to end this that makes us say Wow, I didn’t see that coming.

And as ninjaraiden2k above noted that is probably going to be very hard to do. They are one of the first shows where having access to a few incredibly insightfull, like you Jason, bloggers is a MUST to sorta understand and try to figure out what is going on.

And with so many networks and groups of people speculating it does make it harder for lost to find that thing or ending that no one saw coming.

On the other hand this is still just story telling and down this final stretch I hope they take their game up even another notch.

And While I am complaining, I think over all this season has been pretty darn good.

Ok, thanks, I got all these miscellaneous Lost thoughts out of my head :–).

Namaste!

And I understand what you mean as they certainly will not be able to satisfy everybody and they can’t possibly or even need to answer every thread or question that has happened over the past 6 years…

But with that said, Come On. There are only a couple of handful of Major Questions and Threads that I think many of us obessed long time watching, blog writing fans really want to see.

What I think gets lost in trouble is when they give us contrived answers to things we really don’t care all that much about but hold out the answers and clues to the things we do care about.

In this episode the whispers are trapped dead people..Wow (sarcasium). I mean I am glad they revealed it but to make it so extra obvious cheapens the knowledge. Just show Hugo talking to a few of them and we would have got the message.

The writers this season have used Hurely a lot to ask then answer pretty meaning less information. In I think it was the light house when Jacob through Hurley lead Jack to the lighthouse we got the pointless in my opinion Hurley asking what the audience might have been thinking “…How come we never saw the light house before…Ans:…maybe we weren’t ready to see it…”

Sometimes those fillers are funny as it is a way for the writers to interact with the Blogosphere through Hurley but mostly these attemps do not fit the scene and feel like filler.

If they were going to give answers, tell us how and why the Island keeps spirits here. Let us know if the Island can create a lighthouse on demand or somehow sheild people from seeing what the island does not want you to see.

And yet both of my lame examples misses or perhaps illuminates my point. The reveals Lost so far are giving us are not the reveals we want.

And with so few episodes left and so many large questions to answer I hope they do keep dropping reveals in by having Hurley say “…Dude, this sideways world isn’t really the real world…”

How about showing us what happened to create whatever facture that split off this thread before the final or last episode.

And I won’t bore you will all but some of the question we all want to know

What is the Island?

What are and who created this Island rules we keep hearing about?

How/Why did it pick this particular group of people?

Walt appeared to have some mystical powers & Arron has always been portrayed as important but we have gotten nothing on this story line. Is it dead do we get some fake reveal at the end. In either case more satisfying for me would be to begin tying up that thread way before the last few episodes.

Anyway I have go on too long but I think there are enough questions and great characters that Lost Could unless a lot more story lines with more answers and yet more clues without ruining whatever the be reveal about Fate vs Destiny and Man’s choices between good and evil etc….

However, I’m going to disagree abit on it being pointless. I think the important point of Libby being there was She Awakened Hugo’s Knowledge of the Island World while Sideways Hugo is living large in Sideways world.

My guess is that Desmond is going to try and wake up all the 815’er conciousnes (some by running over (lol), others by making execptionally strong connections.

But Charlie’s last week episode of him telling Desmond what happens in Sideways world doesn’t really matter etc etc. will drive our Candidates into some collision course with Island world with One Existance probably surviving.

So Libby getting Hurley to see that every thing he thinks is real may not be real is HUGE!!!

But I could be wrong…it is Lost afterall.

I mean, yeah we now know the voices are trapped spirits but it was Deus Ex Machina…just out of now where lets drop in a scene to say the whispers are dead people who can’t move on…Contrived.

Now what might be important is that the Island has the Power and some sort of criteria to keep spirits on the island based on people, I’m guessing, On Island behavior??? That was the most important aspect of this scene for me.

It seems Clear (lol not that anything is clear on lost) that Sideways Desmond is going to track down all of the Flt 815’er and encourage (Hurley), run over (Locke) etc. to get them to see the that the Sideways world may not be their true timeline or existance.

In the Matrix is it the world they don’t want you to see. On Lost as Sideways Mrs. Widemore/Farady says “..It is a Violation of the Rules, Desmond is not ready yet…”

And keep in mind it took Charlie almost dying from and Over Dose on the plane to see the reality that whatever is happening in the sideways world doesn’t matter. As he says what matters is Love and that you Believe. To wake up Desmond, he had to give him a life and death experience.

Fortunatly for Huge as Jacob said, some people you can tell in the back of a cab to carry a case and they will…Other like Jack you have to let them go psycho break mirrors and pout before they are ready to believe in that which can not always been seenb.

Anyway, Hugo was Shown the light by a Kiss. My guess is that Love or the possiblity that someone could love Hurley is by far the most powerful emotion and desire he as been scared to dream but always wanted for himself. Libby lit that torch for him and he did not need to be run over. Emotions did there thing.

And speaking of Libby Wow! Great Acting and she was Way Hotter than I remembered. She and Hurley seem to have very good and believable onscreen chemistry…but I digress…again :–)

For others, Desmond/Locke, love alone is not enough. They need to be disconnected from the sideway world and near death experiences seems to be what they need to believe and open up to the possiblity that another world and time line exists.

Now, playing Devils advocate to what I just wrote, It was kinda strange that Locke throwing Desmond down the well and Desmond running Locke over were I think back to back scenes???

But I remain convinced that Desmond is going to rally all the sideways 815’er for some kind of collision with the Island world and Desmond will be the constant and connector between the two world. Cue the Major Electro Magnetic eruption that only Desmond can survive. Smokey will get trapped and only ONE TIME line will remain. And I think the Sideway’s Candidates will have to play some role in determining which world will be the REAL World.

But that is just my random spit balling…

Our fertile imagination stewing for six years are no match for producers dealing with the realities of television production. No physical and visual piece of fiction can match imagination in the mind’s eye. I’m not arguing for lowered expectations but for measured expectations.

The reality is, for a lot of people, Lost will be six years of wasted time. That is definitely is going to happen. The interesting discussion about this show is going to happen months after our initial and collective feelings about the saga dissipate after the finale. Only then can the theories about the show can tranform into real substanative analysis. We need all the pieces for that to happen.