Comments on: Glee Club: Performing Recordings http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/29/glee-club-performing-recordings/ Responses to Media and Culture Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 By: Ron Becker http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/29/glee-club-performing-recordings/comment-page-1/#comment-4256 Sun, 02 May 2010 13:31:40 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=3510#comment-4256 I think Ben’s comments about the musical production numbers are also interesting when put in relation to American Idol’s emphasis on live performances–not only in the live broadcasts designed to counteract time shifting but also in the rough, live versions of performances fans can purchase. Although at some point (perhaps after it gets down to the top 12?) American Idol seems to produce full studio versions of each song, in the earlier stages of the contest, fans purchase the short, live, under-produced versions (I assume to make the process as efficient and cheap as possible.) Regardless, I am struck by how unusual the experience of listening to those versions is. It reminds me of the old days (the 80s!) when I would simply put a tape recorder to my parents TV and record the theme music from my favorite shows (e.g., Falconcrest, Scarecrow and Mrs. King and Double Trouble…remember that one!). While I like the studio versions of the American Idol songs, listening to them doesn’t create the same sense of connection to the program as listening to the live ones does. For me, the highly produced songs on Glee have a similar effect, but actually distance me from the character and stories while I’m watching them.

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By: Kelly Kessler http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/29/glee-club-performing-recordings/comment-page-1/#comment-4210 Sat, 01 May 2010 19:45:29 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=3510#comment-4210 Just a few quick comments.

First, I really understand what you mean about the over-production. It drove me nuts from the beginning. As someone who really digs the musical, the falseness of the over-produced moment (also very common in most contemporary movie musicals and the over-mic-ed quality of many stage musicals) drove me nuts. I have been able to live with the show by clinging onto a statement made by a friend. She had suggested that the over-produced nature is what the glee kids (and others) sound like in their own somewhat delusional heads. I’m able to get by on that.

On another note, I would just like to point out that many of the “teen” voices bring with them the legitimacy of the stage (not just Morrison, et al.). Lea Michele (Rachel), Jenna Ushkowitz (Tina), and Jonathan Groff (Jesse St. James) are all on the heels of their performances in the Tony-winning Spring Awakening. I also stand by Artie (ex-boy-band member), Mercedes (American Idol reject), and Kurt. I don’t find myself questioning their skills or vocal authenticity. Although I find extratextual pleasure in the adults and the appearance of Broadway cameos, I don’t think it’s because they provide me better vocals.

On a final note, I’m not sure why this is the case, but I continue to be swept up in the emotion of the musical numbers, despite the over-production. I re-watched the “Sectionals” episode and cried about 5 times. Almost every time it was linked to a cut from the performers to Schu or Emma listening to them.

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By: Jonathan Gray http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/29/glee-club-performing-recordings/comment-page-1/#comment-4165 Sat, 01 May 2010 05:19:45 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=3510#comment-4165 vis-a-vis your closing point, I think I have your ideal class here, the first lecture for the new Entertainment Industries program in Queensland University of Technology. Watch all the way through, as it keeps adding tricks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUzjIsP1yxc

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By: Myles McNutt http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/29/glee-club-performing-recordings/comment-page-1/#comment-4134 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:32:55 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=3510#comment-4134 If my memory serves me correctly, the show has done a few examples of live performance: I believe a couple of the auditions in the pilot were live, and the entire cast performed Nelly’s “Ride Wit Me” (which you can watch, in poor quality, here) in “Throwdown.” And what fascinates me is that the show doesn’t do this more often: as Amanda points out, there are plenty of opportunities to break down the admittedly infectious utopia the overproduction creates to get at something deeper – it’s something the show used really well in “Wheels” when Kurt cracked on the High F in “Defying Gravity” – suddenly the recording stopped and the scene took over.

Perhaps the show would argue that because these moments are so uncommon they stand out more and have a greater impact, but I’m just imagining something like the start of Mercedes’ performance of “Beautiful” sounding less produced and seeming more vulnerable, and I’m that much closer to not finding it a cloying mess.

All of this said, I am entirely up for Mary’s teaching strategy, and will spend my summer brushing up on harmonies in preparation.

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By: Lindsay H. Garrison http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/29/glee-club-performing-recordings/comment-page-1/#comment-4124 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:07:21 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=3510#comment-4124 Thanks for this Ben – I think you’ve touched on a really important aspect of the show. I actually love the fact that the numbers are over-produced; I enjoy reveling in their excess. It always makes me giggle when you see the band suddenly appear, or they’re all of a sudden in a totally different room, magically transported in a single verse. For me, those moments signal the ways in which the students (and viewers) can find pleasure in song, that music is for them (and us) a utopian break from their lives as outcasts.

Also, Mary, I would LOVE to see you sing full throttle while lecturing. I’d totally jump up and sing back-up! 🙂

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By: amanda klein http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/29/glee-club-performing-recordings/comment-page-1/#comment-4122 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:39:05 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=3510#comment-4122 Thanks for addressing the issue of diegetic song production in this show. I want to love this show (since I love musicals so much) but the way the musical numbers are produced drives me up the wall. The show has so much invested in our emotional attachment to these characters as outcasts who love music so much that they can’t help but burst into song, but when the music that emerges is so clearly detached from the mise en scene in the show (I imagine the actors in the studio singing their numbers as I watch them lip synch on the show), I think it really ruins the effect. The show has the ability to incorporate the acoustics of the mise en scene into these numbers, but it doesn’t and I can’t figure out why.

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By: Mary Beltrán http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/04/29/glee-club-performing-recordings/comment-page-1/#comment-4105 Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:55:59 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=3510#comment-4105 Thanks for raising the interesting issues of the series’ production of the music and the related narrative arc that keeps coming up of the glee club’s struggles to find space in which to rehearse and perform their music. In my opinion, this is part of the story line’s need to keep posing the glee clubbers as underdogs; all the better to enjoy their scrappy carrying-on and rising above these petty and sundry obstacles through song and dance. Similarly, while I know viewers are divided on the glossy, overproduced nature of the lip-synched musical numbers, I’m in the camp that loves their utopic excesses. If they can do it, who’s to think I couldn’t pause a lecture mid-sentence and sing full throttle, just as suddenly backed up by my students in four-part harmony and carefully choreographed dance moves? Just saying.

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