Comments on: A Practical Magic: Christine O’Donnell’s Invocations of Witchcraft http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/ Responses to Media and Culture Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 By: Megan Biddinger http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-36581 Fri, 22 Oct 2010 05:33:39 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=6790#comment-36581 Thanks for the comment, Josh. I think those first three lines: “I’m not a witch. I’m nothing you’ve heard. I’m you.” are a thoroughly calculated and not totally illogical move to appeal to those who feel inefficacious above all else. I don’t have numbers on how many people feel like they have no political efficacy, but my sense is that such feelings are quite pervasive (particularly among those who identify with the Tea Party–O’Donnell’s base). Politicians and public figures have often used the appeal “I’m just like you” as both a selling point and a defense in the past. However, I think you’re right that the full-on congruence of she and me (well, clearly not me, Megan) is a new move. Whether or not people are intrigued by her premise really speaks to the different ways that Americans think government should work as well as the ways that it doesn’t seem to be working–there is both a critique and an ideal in the message that’s worth paying attention to, even if it becomes less and less likely that O’Donnell will win. Thanks again for a great comment.

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By: Josh S. http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-35571 Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:44:29 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=6790#comment-35571 Since we can’t trust what we see or hear, she argues, and since what we sense may be fabricated just to mislead us (by witches, perhaps), we’re left with one sober fact—-that we can only trust the most fundamental possibility for self-affirmation, we think and perhaps deliberate. Not to worry. Like us, O’Donnell exists, and isn’t a mere phantom of sensory uncertainty or worse, a conjurer of illusions.

This may be the first political ad to utilize Descartes’ ‘cogito’ to gain votes. Interesting platform, but a pretty low bar to set for herself: reinforce your existence by voting for a deliberating proxy.

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By: Tim Anderson http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-33269 Fri, 15 Oct 2010 14:23:58 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=6790#comment-33269 Obama and Pelosi are in power and their derision is really about taking very seriously the end of result of the worst outcomes (too much power concentrated in one source). I’d like to see us really seriously grapple what it would mean, as a nation, what it would mean to embrace a theocratic movement with no regulatory appeal. The point of Antaeus is he lost power when he was elevated. If we were to elevate the Tea Partiers and their ideas rather than deride them I think we would find that they would look pretty unappealing. Going after someone for doing something so silly as talking about trying witchcraft when they were a teen is just wrong. With all due respect to the commentator who is upset about the misrepresentation of Wiccan arts, I think much of the mockery of O’Donnell rests in her being a twenty year old with specific ideals. Lord knows I would not want to watch video of me some 15-20 years ago with all of the ideas I had back then.

BTW, this post has me thinking in ways that I just didn’t really think I would… thanks

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By: Megan Biddinger http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-33197 Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:38:50 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=6790#comment-33197 In practical terms, I think you’re right, Matt: This kind of joking and erasure of marginalized groups isn’t going to be remedied any time soon. That said, I think it’s the obligation of those who study the media to call for that change and to point out places where it can happen, even as we understand the reasons why change is so slow and imperfect.

Your point about who is mocking her and why is a really thought-provoking one. I have 3 somewhat related thoughts in response:

First, I do think that some people are mocking her for her spiritual spelunking (needed a word besides “dabble” and “experiment”) in that they know that they are reproducing an inaccurate/incomplete picture of witchcraft for the sake of a laugh. I mean, why not just point out the ways that any number of her policy positions violate norms of “Christian decency”? For some people getting the laugh is really their only job and I respect that, but my job is to call them on it.

The other thing you brought to mind is that I have to admit that when O’Donnell talks about her dabbling, I’m scoffing in part because it seems so fake (which is not the same as insisting on a space for Wiccans and Pagans to define themselves). When O’Donnell says, “I’m not a witch” my gut reaction is “Ah, something we agree on.” For me the only thing joke-worthy is really the idea that she ever actually was a witch.

Lastly, in trying to think through all of the issues that you, Jennifer, and Tim have raised I went back to the 1999 video to try and see why she even brought the witchcraft up in the first place. As best as I can tell, it’s part of a discussion of Halloween and it’s ties to Satanism. Again, I don’t have access to the full episode, but it looks like she brought up these personal experiences as evidence for her claims that Halloween is tied to evil practices. It’s too bad there wasn’t someone there then–a moment when US popular culture was well-stocked with positive images of characters linked (however loosely) to Wicca–to correct her instead of buying into her hype. I realize the absurdity of making such a wish about a show called “Politically Incorrect,” but there it is.

Oof. So many thoughts about O’Donnell. I should probably go do some GOTV work now! 🙂

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By: Megan Biddinger http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-33192 Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:05:43 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=6790#comment-33192 Thanks for reading and raising this point, Jennifer! I saw that the Washington Post’s ‘On Faith’ blog ran a response by Starhawk that spoke to the concern for actual practitioners: http://bit.ly/c9Pxqk So, it’s not as much attention as should be paid to the matter of religion, but perhaps it’s a start to a conversation where those who self-identify as witches get to define the term.

Additionally, I think you’re right that the dismissal (whether intentional or not) of Witchcraft as a legitimate religion also works to contain “unruly” women, not so much by painting O’Donnell as dangerous but by laughing at her.

Your comment also made me think of the jokes circulating about her as the “41-year old virgin”. I’m interested in O’Donnell’s unruliness because it’s not the “bewitching” sexualized unruliness. Rather, part of her unruliness comes from her refusal to engage in sexual activity according to dominant norms–we go from slut shaming, to prude shaming.

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By: Megan Biddinger http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-33191 Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:52:07 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=6790#comment-33191 Thanks for bringing this into the discussion, Tim! I think Fish really nails it here. The last line seems especially important: instead of meaningful debate we end up with perceived and sometimes actual name calling.

I wonder if the comparisons of Obama to Hitler or the portrayal of Nancy Pelosi as a godless pervert provide the same kind of “nourishment” for anyone on the Left? If not, I wonder what could?

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By: Matt DiBiase http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-33150 Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:29:39 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=6790#comment-33150 Jen, I agree that actual practitioners, like many other marginalized groups aren’t given a fair shake in the nation’s dialogue; but honestly, if we’re looking for our Congress, network news and increasingly monopolistic newspaper circulation to show that respect, I wouldn’t hold my breath. Outside of SNL, who mocks everyone in very immature (and funny) ways, I’m hard pressed to think of anyone on the left who is mocking O’Donnell because of her dalliance. I’d like to think that people like Bill Maher (and myself) are skewering O’Donnell because of the sheer dichotomy of her Christian Conservative beliefs and those of Wiccans.

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By: Jennifer Smith http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-33126 Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:33:04 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=6790#comment-33126 This is a great article. I personally have been troubled by the way the Left has focused on the “witch” history — while I disagree with O’Donnell on pretty much everything, the focus on the fact that she may once have dabbled in witchcraft implies that those who do, those (mostly women) who are actual Wiccans or Pagans of any stripe, are equally silly and deserving of mockery. When the dialogue is between the Right’s fear of non-Christian religions and the Left’s mockery, where does that leave actual practitioners? It all seems to reinforce the witch = bad connotations, regarding both the religion and the unruly woman, and the Left can certainly do better. There’s plenty to criticize about Christine O’Donnell without resorting to this.

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By: Tim Anderson http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-33107 Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:41:47 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=6790#comment-33107 Stanley Fish, whom I rarely find insightful in things media, had a great column about the power of being downtrodden a few weeks back at http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/antaeus-and-the-tea-party/

“And the Democrats will be helping them by saying scathing and dismissive things about the Tea Party and its candidates. The Greek mythological figure Antaeus won victory after victory because his opponents repeatedly threw him to the ground, not realizing that it was the earth (in the figure of his mother, Gaia) that nourished him and gave him renewed strength. The Tea Party’s strength comes from the down-to-earth rhetoric it responds to and proclaims, and whenever high-brow critics heap the dirt of scorn and derision upon the party, its powers increase.”

“Commentators who explain smugly that O’Donnell’s position on masturbation (that it is a selfish, solitary act) is contradicted by her Ayn Rand-like attack on collectivism, or who wax self-righteous about Paladino’s comparing Sheldon Silver to Hitler and promising to wield a baseball bat in Albany, or who laugh at Sharron Angle for being in favor of Scientology (she denies it) and against fluoridation and the Department of Education, are doing these candidates a huge favor. They are saying, in effect, these people are stupid, they’re jokes; and the implication (sometimes explicitly stated) is that anyone who takes them the least bit seriously doesn’t get the joke and is stupid, too.”

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By: Megan Biddinger http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2010/10/13/a-practical-magic-christine-odonnells-invocations-of-witchcraft/comment-page-1/#comment-33069 Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:03:48 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=6790#comment-33069 Thanks for your comments, Tim and Matt. I was initially puzzled by why she’d chose to lead with the witch bit, or why she didn’t go the classic redemption story route (a dalliance with the devil before finding salvation) which is a real crowd-pleaser. I also thought about Nixon and imagine that for her detractors, she is now actually a witch (I think last weekend’s SNL sketch did a good job with that take on things and as a further aside, O’Donnell tweeted that she enjoyed that bit). But, as you both note, those who are laughing were never going to vote for her and are not, I don’t think, the intended audience for the ad.

So, as counter-intuitive as it may seem for her to lead with “I am not a witch,” I kind of get it. I think it may work to appeal, if not to Delaware’s few undecided voters, then to a potential future audience made up of those who are also skeptical of both the “lamestream” media and those people who mock O’Donnell. Who knows, perhaps TLC will bring us “Christine O’Donnell’s Delaware.”

Thanks again for reading and offering these insights!

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