Comments on: Report from SCMS: Saturday, Sunday, and Beyond http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/ Responses to Media and Culture Fri, 12 Feb 2016 19:35:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.5 By: amanda http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-78118 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:44:18 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=8740#comment-78118 As a junior faculty member I am in that strange gray area between grad student and wise tenured professor. But I would be very happy to be a part of any mentoring program. Count me in!

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By: Jason Mittell http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-78078 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 03:20:54 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=8740#comment-78078 Mabel – did you see my summary of the mentoring workshop on the SCMS website blog? We definitely talked about mentoring outside of your institution – for mentors to make ourselves available to people (both through organizations like SCMS as Alex mentions, and through informal avenues like Twitter and blog comment threads), and for mentees to reach out to people they meet or admire. This is especially useful for “special-interest” groups, like the queer caucus or if you’re looking for alternative career paths.

Another thing we discussed that might be relevant is the potential usefulness of peer mentoring, either through an intra-institution reading group or finding cohorts of like-minded grad students at other institutions. Talking to other people about what they’re getting (& giving) to their faculty mentors might help you figure out what would work best for you. Good luck!

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By: Mabel Rosenheck http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-78075 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:36:46 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=8740#comment-78075 this is a great comment and though i don’t really have a formal response, i just wanted to appreciate it and say thanks to derek for making it!

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By: Mabel Rosenheck http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-78074 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:34:35 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=8740#comment-78074 very well said and thoughtful, thank you! indeed I appreciated the things you said at the blogging/tweeting panel about meritocracy and how we should all be getting jobs etc. etc.

its interesting that (I don’t think) comments from the mentoring panel haven’t come up more. i was in the generations of media studies panel at the time, but followed as much as I could via twitter. it seemed to talk more about mentoring at the individual institutional level rather than in organizations like SCMS or elsewhere. twitter itself came up as a possible resource, but as has been noted throughout these discussions the people on twitter and the topics discussed there can be limited. however, the reason I raise the issue of that panel is that though I’ve heard some good (and even encouraging) advice about mentoring especially over the last few days (and months of starting my phd) which has emphasized knowing what you want you from a mentor relationship and making it clear to the mentor, I still have trouble figuring out what that is for me (especially as someone who doesn’t really like to talk about my work until its in a form im at least somewhat confident in). Even if comments like yours and Elana Levine’s are encouraging, hearing that more senior faculty members would be interested in this kind of work, even if I feel more comfortable potentially email someone whose work I admire or who I would like to develop a relationship with, I’m still unsure of what to say or ask of them, of what kind of relationship I want, what kind of relationship might be most useful. its a similar dilemma to approaching someone after a panel. finding questions to ask that might inspire a real dialogue is something that tends to leave me at a loss.

I’ll fully acknowledge my own awkwardness and discomfort with reaching out myself. I’ll fully acknowledge a simple desire for all of this to be easy, which it probably never will be. But there’s still a nagging suspicion that others in the field aren’t meeting me part way.

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By: Kristina Busse http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-78072 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:08:52 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=8740#comment-78072 That’s a great model. I actually feel the same way within fan studies, where we often have used the networks and the fannish models and transferred them into academia. I think in both cases the sense of shared cultural spaces may indeed somewhat equalize an otherwise inherently imbalanced power relation and make the academic mentoring but one of several ways in which one can engage…

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By: ajuhasz http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-78069 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 00:43:55 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=8740#comment-78069 Mabel: You hit the nail on the head and I’m sorry you haven’t felt mentored. I was (and not by someone in my department, no one worked on activist video in my cinema dept) but by someone I sought out in another field. Her ongoing mentoring meant the world and my career to me! So, this is all about mentoring, and also “friending” one’s peers as another form of mentoring, and we all need this at all stages of our career. SCMS (and other conferences, list-serves, reading groups, blogs) are disparate opportunities to connect to people with shared academic interests, to learn from and make use of people “up the ladder” as well as our peers, and to build communities. This happens best over the longer term (by going again and again, even if it is painful), and in a myriad of ways: you end up editing a book or journal and rely upon those connections to fill it, you want to sound out an idea, you’re thinking about an idea in your work and hear a great paper on it and ask the person to email you more. Meanwhile, these connections in the short term allow us to work through a lot of the anxiety that has been another thread of this conversation (the personal is the political), as well as the isolation written in to the kind of labor practices of our chosen profession.

When I go to conference at this stage in my career, I am most keen to hear exciting work by grad students, and because at this stage of my career I oversee some things, I try to offer them to people who I’ve heard or met whose work I think is exciting, and I often try to collaborate with younger scholars as well as “offering opportunities,” and I want to learn from them. Mentoring is a relationship, and these are always two ways, even if certainly laced by power (but this is changing as people move in their careers and get to know each other better). Meeting “famous” people always seems scary to me (although it’s fun to see what they look like), and this gets back to the branding thing in this thread. I go to SCMS (etc.) on the lookout for smart people working in the areas that interest me with whom I can make connections. Then, I make the effort to make that connection: like we are all trying to do here.

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By: Mabel Rosenheck http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-78048 Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:13:55 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=8740#comment-78048 I don’t think I’ve really felt mentored by faculty (or actively felt faculty were interested in me/my work), much less faculty who had similar interests to mine (outside of my home institution). In any case, I’ve certainly never felt faculty reach out to me. And this is actually a big part of the point I wanted to make throughout these discussions. I want to make some kind of a call not just to say “it gets better” but for to work harder on being available, keeping track of each other and our interests, making introductions, etc. I think more formal mentoring could be a great way to do this, though perhaps its something that would work better through SIGs (which as I’ve also mentioned could operate much more effectively– I also have come to wonder, should there be more? Could they better reflect the state of media studies today?) than through the organization at large.

And I want to emphasize throughout, the idea of common interests and the fact that some forums like twitter and the SCMS conference itself may be more conducive to discussion of certain research topics and interests than others.

There are also, however, numerous perhaps unique aspects of my own personality and my own situation that contribute to my relationship to all of the things I’ve been talking about.

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By: Noel Kirkpatrick http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-78039 Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:59:35 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=8740#comment-78039 Aw, Max! You start a blog and then no one comments on it, and you have to repost it here! You’ve truly arrived in the blog-o-dome!

As Alex points out below, there’s already some forms of this idea of mentoring going on at the conference, and it would seem wise to expand it (I believe that DML did a similar program this year, though I am not sure how successful it was).

Certainly if the program goes well, a solid base of mentors can be built as people who took advantage of the program could pay it back by being mentors themselves later down the line.

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By: ajuhasz http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-78038 Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:35:24 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=8740#comment-78038 The Queer Caucus currently does this, and I have an amazing mentee, and I think that program works really well! I’d say, using the SCMS queer context as a jumping off point, that intersecting points of interest (subject matter, personal, method) are really vital to make this work. I was very well matched with my mentee (I actually new his work beforehand and had written on some of it on my blog!)

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By: Myles McNutt http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/2011/03/16/report-from-scms-saturday-sunday-and-beyond/comment-page-1/#comment-78037 Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:22:06 +0000 http://blog.commarts.wisc.edu/?p=8740#comment-78037 This sounds like a great idea. On a personal level, Twitter and UW’s wide outreach have sort of offered something of this nature already, but I would very much support (and be willing to eventually participate in from the other side of the aisle) such an endeavor.

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